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I belong to social and human rights sector this is why I see many nasty things which not every Canadian can see or observe.
I don't disagree that Germans not racists but my argument is that Canadians and other nations are too. Did you forget last year's survey when we had mayor elections in Toronto, they found a quite high level of anti-immigration sentiment among people. Ok lets not touch Pakistani taxi cab drivers (although all are highly qualified people and came to Canada as internationally trained professionals). If Canada is so open then why it has a big time problem with Roma moving to Canada and you know for this reason Canada has a constant diplomatic conflict/relation with Czech Republic. Ok forget this issue, I want to come back to your claim about "Everyone feels equal in Canada" as everyone gets equal opportunities.
You wont trust me then read this survey, its done by NARCC and not anyone else, this is why I say self-denial will take us no where.: http://www2.ohchr.org/english/bodies/cerd/docs/ngos/narcc-ne
w.pdf1. Economic Inequality & Racialized Poverty of Women in Canada
Aboriginal, racialized and immigrant women, are disproportionately poor, when
compared to other Canadian women, and to their male counterparts. In 2000 36% of Aboriginal women, 23% of immigrant women, 29% of visible minorities, and 26% of women with disabilities lived in poverty. In 2003 19% of senior women lived in
poverty.125 Many of these groups intersect.2. The following are Statistics Canada Census 2001 average annual income and even in recent years nothing has been improved figures126:
- Average for all Canadian men: $36,865
- Visible minority men: $28,929
- Men with disabilities: $26,890
- Average for all Canadian women: $22,885
- Aboriginal men: $21,958
- Visible minority women: $20,043
- Women with disabilities: $17,230
- Aboriginal women: $16,5193. Racism is still a major barrier to employment: Many employers and managers make
assumptions about work habits, suitability of certain types of work and ability to "fit in" on the basis of race.More evidences to become realistic:
4. Racialized groups in Canada generally have higher education levels than non-racialized groups, yet their employment and income levels trail well behind. While they make up 12% of the Canadian population, they are only 5.9% of government employees and 3% of executives. Blacks, South Asians and other people of colour generally have lower employment statuses than Canadians of English and French backgrounds, even when controlling for education level. About half of university graduates from racial minority communities find professional employment compared to two thirds of White graduates. Within this group, racialized persons earned approximately $7 000 less than White graduates.5. It must also be remembered that Canadian-born persons of colour tend to be better educated than Canadian-born Whites. Of men belonging to racialized groups, only 46% have pensions, compared to 57% of other male workers. Among those with equivalent education, 38 per cent of Canadian-born Whites ranked in the top income quintile, compared to 29 per cent of Canadian-born people of colour.
In Toronto, over 50% of families in some racialized groups live below the official low income cut-off. Among White ethnic groups, the rate is less than 10%.6. They all find employment one way or the other but not in field of their own specialty and ironically not for the skills for which they qualified to be an immigrant to Canada in the first place. So in one stroke “we” have de-skilled those people who “we” chose as “suitable” immigrants for Canada while not resolving the issue of shortages of labour in those fields for which we chose them.
7. Although several institutions are charged with ensuring equity and a discrimination-free society, very few elected officials or senior representatives of organizations speak out against racist views and comments. In fact, many of the comments that marginalize racially identified communities come from elected representatives. (i.e Betty Granger, Canadian Member of Parliament, Roy Bailey, Last mayor of Toronto, Mel Lastman.)
Despite a notion that Canada is a ‘tolerant’ and welcoming country where overt forms of racism are unacceptable, there are many systemic ways in which racism operates under the guise of other issues, such as the consideration of credentials, exclusion in workplace networks, and more favourable treatment of people from the dominant group. Furthermore, the concept of ‘tolerance’ is rarely problematized as to its clearly condescending undertone. For to ‘tolerate’ others in no way establishes that they are one’s equals, but maintains a notion that racialized persons are fortunate when the superior dominant group decides to put up with them. And the list goes on...
I've witnessed racism and discrimination in Canadian work place and I can give you several examples and names. This is the reason I say, you are sitting 1000s of miles away from Germany and complaining about German racism and at home you have several examples of racism but you simply deny it...or does it mean you're part of that system that you hardly observe all above given racism and discrimination issues...???
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- Racism in Germany
- Racism in Germany
- Never try to teach a pig to sing. It wastes your time and annoys the pig.
- Racism in Germany - how bad is it?
- Maybe they have a right...
- Sure you find ignorant people everywhere..Is that really an excuse though?
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- Racism in Germany
- reply to michael
- reply to singh
- A diferent answer
- Re: Sara de España
- Based on my16 yrs, assesment of cultures and diversity living on this continent!@Mais Um
- Quienes son mas racistas
- Que los alemanes no son racistas???
- Unos son hipocritas y los otros expresivos .
- Morena
- Los raices del racismo todavía predominan mucho!
- Los Racistas son unos ignorantes
- Ray
- Que es un latino?
- hmmm
- Paloma y Lucy
- Rascism in Germany!!!!
- If you shocked about racism in Germany , then you'll love Ireland and England
- SOS from Germany !
- Racism
- Least racist country
- Racisim ist a norm!!!
- Hi
- Hi
- Hi
- hi
- General thoughts on this topic
- To Miguel
- Hola
- Comentario
- terrible
- Who cares?
- Hi
- Fail
- Hi
- At carsten
- lol
- Hausmeister
- Hi
- Alright
- Hmm
- ?
- at Charlie
- @wincy cheung
- BTW
- Racism
- I beg to differ.
- To most Germans
- Racism
- hello...
- Solution
- Genau!
- So
- Intigration on /Racism ? Which one is far better?Which one is working now.
- Hola
- this discussion is endless
- hi Alex
- endless and futile
- I second that...
- Reply to all...
- Reply to Bunye
- agreed
- another excuse
- Ha, etwa nicht???
- @TY @John Lovejoy
- Your comment to Y.T.
- True
- ...
- P.S
- ....
- To John
- good point.
- good reading - thank you
- not just in the East
- Thank you
- to T.Y.
- okay folks. here is another link!!
- visit Germany
- OK.
- no need to believe
- what do you recommend T.Y.
- more drama
- it's your choice
- thank you. lets keep talking.
- xenophobia
- Good points.
- jajaja
- classism
- jaja
- Thanks. Found another link.
- more examples
- thank ty
- good luck
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- true
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- Naija guy
- @Daniel Hollenbeck
- @Daniel Hollenbeck
- You missed my point.
- racism still there.
- Your point I did not miss is..........Berlin confrence Agender?1878
- " european National" yes full Time
- Mostly agree, but
- Bravo
- Naija
- ....
- ...
- Back to topic
- minoroties in politics
- ...
- Not just NPD
- ...
- another excuse
- Interracial couples
- racisim as part of the Germanic system
- My personal experiance
- Young Germans too
- Not that kind of scene
- Eye contact
- speaking of speaking up
- do not agree
- lol
- ...
- No surprise there
- Well, TY...wasn´t going to say that...
- not in the blood
- but is it really like that?
- Language
- Buenos días
- thanks
- more drama
- Appearance
- The goodones are in the minority!
- appreciate..
- false??
- mishandled
- appreciate
- lawd
- ...
- huh?
- of course
- Thank you for your insight
- Good discussion. video link. need reply
- Well...
- About time
- News flash? Not really
- so?
- So
- @TY and @Brandon Hayes Good Reference Info thanks again.
- Glad to help.
- My Profession
- thanks.
- A little perspective
- Women
- About the Spanish language in the USA...
- what? let's get real
- Dora the explorer
- it depends
- Freedom
- I have seen those cartoons
- Spanish
- experience matters
- Languages
- yes but...
- Experience
- don't know
- What is Multiculturalism.
- yes
- Agreed!
- I don't know
- They don't care
- Same thing
- what?
- I don't think it's the same
- ...
- Genau
- frustrating
- OMG
- Did you read
- that's sad
- basques?
- exactly
- of course!
- slightly off topic, but
- USA
- Yes, my kids used to watch Dora, too...
- speaking of languages
- not sure..
- MMMM
- Bla, bla, bla
- Germany is quite racist
- Keep your head down and mouth shut!....
- Hi Anthony
- German interior minister reopens bitter row over Muslim integration
- muslims
- Hola Crissy
- Que mal
- Eso no hay que dudarlo
- again?
- foreign workers from other cultures
- Integration
- lol
- See!
- they need foreign skilled workers badly...
- Of course
- herz4
- Already happening
- paradox...?
- Vicious cycle
- De acuerdo contigo
- WOW!
- Read carefully
- Germans are not friendly
- Hey
- agreed
- .....
- Being Caucasian
- maybe
- I guess...
- ...
- oh but come on!
- Italy
- I know
- Different skin, different experience
- maybe but...
- go see for yourself
- yeah
- being welcome
- yeah
- no paradise but
- true
- true enough
- me too
- @ YT
- transportation
- .....
- ...
- .....
- incapability
- that's right
- VIVA LA REVOLUCION!
- don't be so pessimistic
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- .......
- revolution
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- underestimate
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- ....
- to the Germans in the forum!!
- ...
- I'm usually negative but....
- Europe
- .....
- ?
- same in Germany
- what is that?
- A resonse to your comment on Hitler
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- ok I have to ask
- ...
- oh
- holocaust
- .....
- Conspiracy theorist
- .....
- oh
- agreed
- .....
- Cities
- Pool
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- c'mon
- ....
- ......
- true
- ....
- Nicolas K.
- true
- yes
- history
- Racism in Germany
- Just at the highest Echolon of Racism!!!!
- Afro german
- So you actually READ that, yeah?
- ....
- sad but true
- Facts
- Agreed
- ...
- .......
- German are more racist! No way around it
- yeah right
- us?
- Needed proof!!!
- Claudio and Patrick
- ....
- ....
- well
- .....
- The whole Germans need to be reducated in the real world affairs
- @ John Lovejoy
- ......
- in my opinion
- real American
- well said
- Oh Ja Genau
- Dortmund is only a part from Germany
- true
- I feel the same in North Germany
- Racism
- Racism
- I agree
- Funny
- Fast change
- Europe
- About racism
- ....
- well
- ....
- Canada eh!!!
- .....
- Multicultural experiment
- a note
- O Canada
- Agreed
- its everywhere
- Thanks for being honest
- It's nice
- Bravo
- May be the "Oslo Incident could be avoided"
- The european union was born out of the idealogy for trade purposes!
- agreed
- huh?
- never heard
- not accurate I think
- Culture and Racism
- or never realized
- I agree on some things
- our problem
- Comedians and racist jokes
- Why?
- Canada
- Comedian...
- because
- Canadian Immigration Preferences
- Immigration policy
- wow
- They should
- I tell you why
- Successful Canada
- Same tactic
- of course
- wow, I had no idea
- Again denial
- But now you know
- well...
- Racism in germany
- Germans are still the racists,which started both of the world wars
- 2nd comment
- Oh hell no
- Turks
- .
- Racism?
- ??
- Racism in Chemnitz, Germany
- AW
- Again and again denial
- well said
- What Facts Again!!!!!
- What facts Again!!!!
- What Facts Again!!!!!
- ...
- Bild
- oh yeah
- Fact
- Typing errors!!
- Errors! Reply @ Oliver
- double-double or rubble rubble
- Mistaken Identity I think.
- Errors!
- Yep
- Date!
- Some videos about immigrants in Canada
- Agree to disagree
- Canada, the land of the evil
- Same thing
- same old story
- who leaves the Germans alone
- what troubles me most is people like you exist in Germany
- what you said could be true in the past!
- racism is here and there and everywhere
- racism in england! Anybody found in such act faces prosecution.May be minors, 6-9years old cautioned.
- Ich bin Ausländer (leider zum Glück)
- I share with you my experience
- I wish you the best while your living there.
- danke
- I am quite aware of such in Germany
- more to add
- Theirs no actual slum the Uk as your thinking.
- Lies is every where in germany.
- Lies are every where , take your time you will discover it in them
- Yes and No
- German government
- and our people
- Racism
- Take it to Canada forum
- HI
- Its you who started comparison
- Racism
- Wow
- not wow but too much awww is not good
- Germany is setting Example for Canada to train Immigrants
- Racism, a never-ending hot topic.
- You nailed it!
- Germans are not open minded
- And the question is: WHAT COUNTRY is friendly with minorities and immigrants?
- Racism not only happen in Germany but even to
- Blizzy Everhard
- Racism!
- Racism and germany, i'm sick and tired to here about it. Germany moved on and so should everybody else!!!
- I agree
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- Wow
- @Ingrid Meyer
- @Ingrid Meyer
- @ingrid Meyer
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- Racism in Germany
- German are open minded
- CITY RESIDENCE
- Re: CITY RESIDENCE
- Mhhhh
- cada cabeza es un mundo
- Clarifications from Germans
- @Anne Sredzki
- who leaves the Germans alone
- Why germans Can seem "racist"
- Curious!
- It's everywhere
- Racism in Germany is BAD - but there is a lot of hypocrisy!
- Germans are extremely conformist
- Subtle racism
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- Interesting...
- @Morgan Dalton
- a newbie's experiences
- How bad!?
- Reply to - Ulises Kahlo - How bad!?
- Positive Discrimination
- Claudio C
- Okay...
- Racism in continental Europe vs. UK / USA
- @Jet Setter what?
- Uk and USA
- @Sumon Swagger
- @Ron Saxena
- @Sumon Swagger
- @Ron Saxena
- Sumon Swagger
- Just a few thoughts
- Racism in Germany
- @G.M
- @G.M
- @G.M
- @G.M
- @G.M
- @g.M
- GM
- Germany is one of the friendliest countries that I have visited
- @Ron Saxena
- Photo in CV
- @Vladimir
- @Jack H
- Hi
- @Vladimir Tatransky
- @Ron Saxena
- @G. M.
- @G.M
- @oliver
- @Ron
- Vladimir
- Vladimir
- Oliver
- ...
- Racism in Germany
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- racism?
- @Ron
- Oliver H
- Oliver H.
- Oliver H.
- G.M
- racism
- mmmmm
- Experiences are by definition non sharable and racism is a manipulation
- Usual German reaction
- Born and bred in Germany, almost...
- Colonies
- Surprising?
- @ Astrid / Frank
- Germany not Racist!
- " Germany not Racist!"- Sarcasm alert
- Frank: Der Hyprocrite
- @ Astrid / Frank
- Frank: Der Hyprocrite
- Comments deleted
- Agree with Rox - why did you delete your post
- @nkbrd
- @nkbrd Jdk
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- Racism
- Racism Today Essay
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